Greater Edmonton Lacrosse Council
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Notes of the October 18, 2008 GELC Planning Meeting

 

Attendance:

Jim Andrews, Wizards,                                                           Ken Hansen, Warriors

Darlene Anders, Past President                                              Daryl Hill, Leduc

Bill Clark, Rams, Box                                                                   Kent Proctor, Fort Sask

Bud Fagrie, Box, Warriors                                                  Doug Mentanko, Rams

Stu Jobb, Blues                                                                        Donna Haggstrom, GELC

Liz Roberts, Westlock

Keith Talbot, President

Rob Davidge, Coaching Liaison, Titans

 

 

1.      Call to order:

Keith Talbot called the meeting to order at 9:10 am.

 

2.      Box Committee

    1. Intermediate – Tier Three

A proposal should be taken to the RMLL for the implementation of a Tier Three league under the minor box clubs, for 17 and 18 year olds with a certain percentage of older players only.

 

    1. Player Movement

Regulation:

If a club has no A team. Potential A players have the ability to request a release to play A. The request must go the Box Committee, for disbursement to the appropriate club in need of A players. The child will only be allowed to go to one evaluation.

 

                        Regulation:

                        NO player movement unless approved by the box committee.

 

    1. Interlocking Midgets

Agreement that an interlocking Midget league may work for the upcoming season, Details would need to be worked out.  Donna to speak with Kevin at the ALA meeting.  Review formulas.

 

    1. Affiliation, - girls and goalies it was tabled for the box committee to deal with.

 

    1. Out of town teams, travel during playoffs changing times, please leave as currently done.

 

 

    1. Category Directors

Possibility work on creation of a Job Description.

    1. Girls

Draft that was approved send on to CDLA so that we are all on the same board.

Make sure coaches and officials understand the rules. Midget National girls team would play the rules of the tournament.

We want to foster the growth of the girls program.

 

    1. Odd numbers of teams in schedules to resolve the number of games go to the following

 Totals points

Total points possible.

 

 

    1. Tournaments

Discussion occurred about the purpose of the tournaments.

Titans, Rams use the tournament for fundraising purposes

 

Blues Wizards, Warriors use their tournaments as events.

 

Rebels at this time do not want to hold a tournament.

 

Wizards would like a tournament earlier in the season.

 

Discussion and the following decision was agreed to by the clubs

 

Titans would host girls, novice and boys C on the 22,23, and 24th of May

 

Rams would host B on the June 5 –7 weekend.

 

Wizards would host the Tyke and mini tyke wrap up on June 13-14th

 

Blues will host the ice breaker with all Divisions A, B, girls

April 24,25 weekend.

 

 

  1. Faculties:
    1. Concern about arenas as Bill Hunter and Coronation will both not be available in 2009
    2. Soccer Centers we will have to see what we can use there.
    3. Westlock may have useable floor especially earlier in the season.
    4. Enoch floor  - Stu is going to explore this possibility.
    5. Beaumont – Warriors will see if there more available there.
    6. Speak with Junior clubs in regards to the floor situation. Keith will set up a meeting.

 

  1. Discipline see attached report
  2.  Field – discussion was as there where no field clubs in the  GELC no point in getting to excited about a field committee.  Doug Frost send a report in see the report below.

 

  1. Promotion

Promotion meeting had only the chair, the Warriors and Wizards in attendance.

More is to be done to promote girls box lacrosse.

Messaging in the arenas, codes of conduct to be developed for all clubs.

City wide registration date will be February 22 at Rexall

11 to 3:30 pm.

Pee Wee tournament that weekend as well.

Blues, Titans, Rams , Leduc, Wizards, Warriors, GELC team.

 

Scoop and Shot perhaps on April 3rd

Tim Bits on April 18th with games at Rexall during the day

Tyke Wizards and Westlock at half time

Mini Tykes Warriors and one of the other clubs.

Coaches night possibly March 29th with something at Brooklyn’s or similar and then to then bused to the game and back to the bar after.

Working on new brochures and a different approach to Lax Cross Talk.

Why doesn’t the GELC hire someone to promote the game? Next promo meeting November 10th,

 

  1. Gaming

Casino workers need to be in by Monday, as we have to send the application in to Gaming.

50 –50 worked well last year the clubs would like to keep it as it was. Have till next Friday to get in a specific date they want to work otherwise will be assigned dates.

 

 

  1. Officials

Send officials out the coaching clinics to provide some insight

Work on the evaluations more.

The Referees are committed to doing more evaluations and mentorship in the upcoming year.

 

  1. Coaching Mentorship

Hold an additional clinic for the coaches to do some mentorship.

 

 

 

  1.  GELC budget Items
    1. Promo person salary
    2. promotional  brochures
  2. ALA
    1. All clubs need to attend the AGM
    2. Intent to not vote in favor of the motion on parity
    3. Intent to table the new board structure.
    4. Discussion occurred on who would run for the positions on the Board.

 

  1.  Discipline

     Team travel permits so that discipline can be monitored.

                 All game sheets must be send in by the team traveling

 

 

 

Meeting Adjourned at 1:40 pm.

 

See Doug Frosts comments below

 

 

Discipline

 

I have not done anything on this for months. I do not apologize just say to busy.

 

I have several issues I will be dealing with immediately and will so by November 15, 2008 .

 

After Game Responses

Delegated Authority - ALA RIC Position and GELC RIC Scheduler

Coach Behavior,  Certification, Security Clearances

 

On the bigger note I have served my last disciple meeting as Chair and I will be stepping down I will take a role in wrapping up and help some one new for a few months. It is time we start looking.

 

Over all we have had some good progressions the main focus for me has been consistency and accountability. But need to look at a system of better paper work for the RECORD. I think this needs to be an administrative function needs to be supported fully form the office. Sorry I have not talked to you about this yet. During the season this record keeping will be essential. I think having the right documents in place will be the key. But more importantly I would like to look at discipline systems of Minor Hockey and Ringette to establish amore structure environment that has been substantiated. Then apply it to the ALA Guidelines that were provided earlier this year.

 

At the same time when contacting these organizations I think it would be prudent to look at Coach Behavior,  Certification and Security Clearances. The board needs to discuss this it is not a discipline matter.

 

 


Field

 

I have been in discussion with several people and we see the need for a program that truly will see the grass roots development of field lacrosse. This has included people provincially and locally. I think a similar program to the summer super series of a couple of years ago is sort of where we are leaning with a focus on exposure and development.

 

Keys on this will be non club based and non competitive for Edmonton Players. Make it for the growth of the sport and the lacrosse players.   I have started to draft a document and would like to pass it by a few key people before I would take it to the board for approval. Lisa Smith and Bill Clark first. I have not had a chance to talk to them recently as I have been away too much, but had a great time.

 

I will focus on the closure of Nationals by November 1 and a draft of some information hopefully for ALA Meetings.

 

It is my intention to work with Bill for a couple years on this. Again I have not had a chance to talk to Bill. This is were I see my focus.

 

I see this needing about $5000.00 as a seed to grants to get this in place. This would be for promotional, pinnies and equipment. It is my hope this would be reduced to ½ with grant applications.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





Planning Meeting Greater Edmonton Lacrosse Council October 13, 2007

 

Attendance:

Forrest Thomspon, Titans                                                  Ken Hansen, Warriors

John Frame Blues,                                                                Doug Frost, Discipline

Kent Proctor, Rebels                                                           Bob Posezny , Rams

Keith Talbot, Vice President                                              Bill Clark, Box Chair

Jim Andrews, Wizards                                                        Carla Nelson, Westlock

Darlene Anders, President                                                                 Brad Dahrouge, RIC

Graham Sterparn, Field

Donna Haggstrom, GELC                                                   Lawrence Farries, Red Deer Chiefs

 

1)       Call to order:

Meeting was called to order by the President at 9:11 am.

 

2)       Acceptance of the Agenda:

Brad and Kent moved the acceptance of the agenda.

 

3)       Committee Reports:

a)       Box Committee-

Bill Clark gave an overview of the Box Committee planning meeting speaking on the three main items discussed. Mini –tyke and changing the way the league operates.

Tournaments and what clubs are committted to what in the next year.

Tierring Proposal to go to an A, B, C format.

·         Mini tykes

Discussion surrounded a change in format of the mini tykes with the clubs having a more consistant time frame for parents concerns was raised over travelling at 6 pm  in this division.

After each club spoke on their desires the following was put forth.

Mini tykes would play Sat mornings and Wednesday nights.

They would be either a game or practice. Week nights the only games would be close to each other and still have the 6pm start time. Saturday morning games can be travel games.

 

·         Tournaments

A division tournament will be the Warriors long weekend in May. Red Deer has agreed to only do B

Blues will do the Ice breaker tyke thru Midgets. Last weekend in April.

Rams mini tyke thru midgets and girls divisions B and C tournament

June 13,14,15

Rebels no tournament

Warriors will be may long weekend with Pee Wee A and up and  Junior B

Novice and tyke if there is interest.

Red Deer will be novice up all levels of B

Titans May 30 –June 1 Novice up and girls “B”

Wizards  - Canada Day tournament

Comments on Canada day that the wizards did not require it as a fundraiser. That the numbers continue to get lower. The out of town teams are going to Calgary. No praticipation from local teams. The touranment is not viaable with out at least 40 –44 teams involved.

Note to be sent to John Tyrell on tournaments.

 

·         Discussion on Box was put on hold in order that we could allow the Miners rep to leave the discussion.

 

b)       Facilties

i)         Darlene reported on the Facilties meeting.

Junior Clubs and  Actions to be taken as follows:

Junior Clubs to present a bond for the use of City of Edmonton Floor time the home team will be the responsible team in the event of  damages.

Policies need to be created on GELC letterhead with expecations of how the facilities shall be treated and this must be distributed to the Junior and senior clubs using the facilties.

It must be made clear what the fee is for and now to appeal any fine that has been placed.

Who  has the final decision as well.

Home team must be responsible for the dressing rooms when out of town and non associate members of the GELC play in the city facilties.

There needs to be a meeting with the clubs, the RMLL to discuss the trashing of dressing roms and the fines involved.

·         Use of  Soccer Centers

If we require the use of the Soccer Centers in the future we need to write a letter to the Owners of the Center and express concerns over they way we are treated in the facilities, the time frame of getting into dressing rooms. The lack of  a dispute resolution. And  poor communications.

 

c)       Gaming

·         Keith spoke about the Bingo and Gaming meeting that was held.

·         Discussion occurred on the 50 –50 and the decision was all clubs would particiapte in the 50 –50s.

Several clubs favored having one night for their club and a portion of another if required.  Warriors, titans, Wizards, Blues, Rams. Westlock was happy as it was.

The smaller clubs will combine to fill the slots.

 

·         Bingo  -

Discussion was held relative to giving up the GELC bingo slots, but it was concluded as long as there where clubs willing to cover the slots that it would be kept.

 

·         Casino

Clubs could opt out of Casino fundraising if they so wished.

 

d)       Back to the Box Meeting

·         Intermediate

The group discussed a GELC postion on Intermediate lacrosse, for the discussions and vote which will occur at the ALA Annual Geneal Meeting in November.

·         Tierring

The dicussion surrounding tierring involved  adding another division to the current tierring format.

The Same ratio would excist for the A teams, but clubs would be allowed some discression with the formation of any other teams. They would be able to make B and C level teams to be competitive in the league. The clubs which only had one team in a divisionw ould enter that team in the B division.  Teams would require to have an A team in a one to three ratio.

 

·         Goalies

2 goalies on an A team hurts the rest of the teams in a club.

We need to change affilation rules for goalies.

 

·         Girls

Affilation rules need to be changed for girls so that it is open.

 

e)       Discipline

Doug Frost gave an overview of the Discipline planning meeting.

Following items where discussed:

·         Better Education of coaches and team officials

·         Consistancy of the club Reps a the meetings is important

·         Games served by players and not recorded properly by team management shall result in the player having to reserve the suspension.

·         Lack of clarity in how pnealties  are served, suspensions and game ejections.

·         We need a Standard Code of Conduct

·         Game Reports need to be in the day of the incident

·         Disicpline chart will be a different color in the coaches handbook, it will be on the back cover of the book. And suggested that It be laminated and given to coaches.

·         Manager manual be created that includes items in the coaches manual as well as pertaint information for team managers.  Hold a meeting with a ffew managers to develop a bok.

·         Doug would like us to find a co chair for the committee.

·         Clarify gross misconducts the issuing of them and the seving.

·         Better Education to the officials in regards to penalties and suspensions etc.

 

f)        Promotion Committee

Keith spoke about the promotion committee.

·         He wanted the clubs to all confirm that February 2nd would be the first GELC registration date.

·         Pee Wee tournament would still be held  with the Rush

·         Promotion of Girls lacrosse would see the Warriors club look after girls lacrosse in Edmonton.

·         At registrations a separate girls lacrosse teable should be put in place.

·         Goalies camp the GELC promotion and development commeittee would work with the Warriors on the Goalie campthey hold annually.

 

g)       Field

·         Doug Frost up dated the group on field.

·         The field committee would like all box clubs to included a box on their registraiotn fors for field lacrose with interest noted or a collection of fees.

·         Month of July would be house league with the GELC running the league.

·         The “ Rep Clubs” would help with coaching and guidance in the operation of the summer league.  They would form teams for provincials and out of town tournaments and opportunities.

·         Ages: u-10,u13,u-16 u-19,  are the current year brackets. CLA is considering changing it to under 19, under 16, under 14, under 12.

·         Proposal to have a weekend of field for box teams to go and try it out.

·         Motion to come to the Annual General meeting for funds to be included in the budget for a GELC all star team u –19 and u-16 to pay for Jersies for this team to compete in the Canadian championships. Want to see Alberta send the Alberta Champion plus the GELC  all star teams to represent Alberta.

 

h)       Officials

·         Mentorships

GELC would like to hire to senior officials to provide mentorhip 3 nights a week. Half way thru the season bring the officials back for some additional trainning and question and answer periods.

Suggested, $10,000 be put in a fund to do this.

Get people with experince and not scare them away.

The mentors would be paid on a per game contract.

A committee would be set up to make up a job description and to hire the individuals.

·         Need to work on development of Field lacrosse officials in Edmonton.

·         Box  Lacrosse officials it cost approximately 50 dollars for the course, 100 for the uniform, it was suggested for first year officials that the club be free.

·         That trainning of new officials included some game situations as well.

·         Advertising of officials would happen where ever registrations are taking place.

·         Use some winter floor time to train officials.

·         Dates to all be in by November for the the winter programs.

 

i)         Budget Items

·         Refereeing,

·         Support for field

·         Support for officials

·         Rules books , lamination of discipline pages

·         Printing managers manual.

·         Additonal staffing

j)         Staffing

·         Discuss was held on  full time staffing of the GELC office.

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k)       ALA Annual General meeting

·         Discussion ocurred earlier in the meeting on the Intermediate

·         Majority of the AlA meeting is dealing with the bylaws of the organziation.

 

l)         Filling GELC Board Vacancies

·         Darlene is stepping down as President.

·         Keith is willing to run for the President Postion

·         Require a Vice President

·         Secretary  - Kent Protocor is willing to run for this postion.

·         Require A coaching Liason person.

o        Create a job description with what the expectation of this role is

·         RIC  - Brad is still willing to hold postion

·         Box Committee – Bill Clark is willing

·         Facilties – requires chair

·         Discpline Doug is willing but would like a co –chair

·         Bingo and Gaming – Denise will look after the bingo end of this

·         Promotion and Development –requires a chair

·         Field Committee – requires a chair

 

4)       Ajourment

Meeting was adjourned at 2:35 pm.





 



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